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Bug #41614 php 5.2.3
Submitted: 2007-06-06 20:36 UTC Modified: 2007-06-08 01:00 UTC
Votes:1
Avg. Score:5.0 ± 0.0
Reproduced:1 of 1 (100.0%)
Same Version:1 (100.0%)
Same OS:1 (100.0%)
From: spetznaz at lnxclan dot com Assigned:
Status: Not a bug Package: Unknown/Other Function
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 [2007-06-06 20:36 UTC] spetznaz at lnxclan dot com 
Description:
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Description: New versions of PHP mess everything up almost every time.

Reproduce code:
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#!/bin/bash
echo List the worst programmer that works on php
    read first
echo Fire $first, and blame most of this crap on him.
    echo ""
while echo List the next worst programmer;
    read dorks
        do echo Fire $dorks and replace with good programmer;
    echo ""
done


Expected result:
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I expect to see things compile like they did in version 5.2.2. Well, to tell the truth, now I expect to fight with php every time there is a new version... Wasted hours/days.

Actual result:
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Nothing works and php does not log anything. Nothing. No docs, no logs... nothing. The result again is that we spend hours trying to get php to install and work. Only php gives us this many problems and takes this much time. Why? Because the dev team does not care about the people that use this software. If they did, they would not sneak new stuff in a version that will make php not work like it did. One word... deprecation. Learn it. Use it.
This should have been called php 6.0 not 5.2.3. 5.x.x should compile, install and work the same.

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 [2007-06-06 20:38 UTC] tony2001@php.net 
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 [2007-06-06 20:54 UTC] spetznaz at lnxclan dot com 
Bogus? It is NOT bogus!

WE SPEND HOURS ON THIS CRAP ALL THE TIME!!!!

THIS IS NOT BOGUS!

Ask ANYONE who has been dealing with php for 1 year or more and tell me if this is bogus.

The bug I am reporting is the inability of the dev team to adhere to standards that results in wasted time and money to support software that could be a great tool if the people that write it would take a little time to think about things before they release them.

Compair php to any other app out there. No one else does this but php and I would bet my life on it that we are not the only people that get pissed off about this issue.

At the least, make some docs!

I dont hate php, I hate the way it is released.
 [2007-06-06 21:03 UTC] helly@php.net 
Nearly all changes we do during development of a new version a required for a specific demanding reason (often security). And actually running into this kind of problem is your very own issue. You should either help PHP development directly - guess after all it is open source - and if you are not willing to help then at least you should test new versions during their release candidate phase. Those phases are publicly announced and feedback is always been taken seriously. But then that would be helping PHP of course.
 [2007-06-08 01:00 UTC] stas@php.net 
In general, if you want something to be fixed, describing the actual problem in a specific and precise terms - with script reproductions, environment details etc. - is a good start. 
If you just want to rant, get yourself a blog.
 
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