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Bug #14871 Problem Joining Newsgroup List
Submitted: 2002-01-05 09:01 UTC Modified: 2002-01-07 08:15 UTC
From: rls at infotech-edirect dot com Assigned:
Status: Closed Package: Website problem
PHP Version: 4.1.1 OS: Windows 2000
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From: rls at infotech-edirect dot com
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 [2002-01-05 09:01 UTC] rls at infotech-edirect dot com
Hi,

I've been trying to join the newsgroup for the General user list.  No matter what method I use, it returns a confirmation email, which when responded to... is rejected.  So, for some reason I can't seem to join.

The email address I am useing is rls@InfoTech-eDirect.com
Could you enter my name into the approved list so I can post a message?

Here's the rejection bounce back that I am receiving. Beats me.

Thanks,

Rick


====================================

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at hosting-network.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<webmaster@php.net>:
208.210.50.160 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 553 [1] Cw Detrixhe, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S852
Giving up on 208.210.50.160.

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 [2002-01-05 09:03 UTC] rls at infotech-edirect dot com
PS.  I've tried all lower case in my email address as well including resetting my email client to that just incase it was case sensitive. No difference in result.
 [2002-01-06 19:51 UTC] jimw@php.net
i added the address manually.
 [2002-01-07 08:15 UTC] rls at infotech-edirect dot com
Thanks,...

The Newsgroup interface now works through the news interface.  Interestingly, if I send an email to the newsgroup... it is still rejected.

But at least one of the two ways works.

rk

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In case you're interested, here is the rejection message coming back from the server to my email attempt:

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at hosting-network.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<php-general@lists.php.net>:
216.92.131.4 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 553 [1] Cw Detrixhe, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S852
Giving up on 216.92.131.4.

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: <rls@InfoTech-eDirect.com>
Received: (qmail 90097 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2002 13:05:58 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO development) (24.45.23.82)
  by node-126.hosting-network.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 13:05:58 -0000
Reply-To: <rls@InfoTech-eDirect.com>
From: "Richard Spangenberg" <rls@InfoTech-eDirect.com>
To: "Miles Thompson" <milesthompson@ns.sympatico.ca>,
	<php-general@lists.php.net>
Subject: RE: [PHP] Remote Cookie ID and Web Statistics
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:06:10 -0500
Message-ID: <NIEGJDMDIJDDAIMKINKMIECIDFAA.rls@InfoTech-eDirect.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20020106234029.01e79da0@pop1.ns.sympatico.ca>
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

Miles,

The reason for the javascript is that the hosting ISP does not support PHP.

Each time a new session is started, the javascript would have to:
- check for cookie
-if it doesn't exist
	-poll database for next new custome ID#
	-set new cookie id
	-update database with page info
	-download java applet (does something else)

I guess I wasn't sure if a non PHP supported domain could access the PHP
database from a remot	server or not and how one would do that.  I am setting
things up in PHP but fairly new at it.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Miles Thompson [mailto:milesthompson@ns.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:52 PM
To: Richard Spangenberg; php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Remote Cookie ID and Web Statistics



Why would you want to use Javascript? Just have some code at the top of
each page which
-checks for the cookie
-if it doesn't exist
    -identify customer, login page or however you choose
    -set cookie
    -update database
-if it does exist
    -update the database with some information pertinent to that page

Or are these straight HTML pages, thus the need for Javascript to do
something? I don't konw a lot of Javascript, but you could have it pop open
a PHP page in a child browser window, back in the Z-order so that it would
be behind your "main" page (only for Internet Explorer), and use it to do
the above steps.

For every page transition you would have to pass the appropriate parameters
to the child window and force it to refresh. You will have some trouble
with people who have Javascript and cookies turned off.

As I said, I don't know Javascript, so this is just off the top of my head.
A straight PHP solution would be preferable and I assume it's not possible
either because the ISP doesn't host it or for some political reason.


Miles Thompson


At 10:28 PM 1/6/2002 -0500, Richard Spangenberg wrote:
>Hello, - for something a little different...
>
>Does anyone have experience using Javascript on remote server html
delivered
>pages to capture data in a PHP MySQL database resident at my domain.
>
>I would like to build a customer profile database for a customer using a
>permanent cookie on a visitor's browser client to ID them and track their
>visits by page over time.  This is similar to a live or remote web
>statistics process for a session but posting to a mysql database by some
>mapped category by page in addition to the web stats.  I'd like to track
>both the session and by posting to a visitor database, long term trends as
>well.
>
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks, Rick
>rls@InfoTech-eDirect.com
>
>
>
>
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